IT Survivors – Staying Alive In A Software Job
Before I started working for myself, I spent some years in some of the top IT companies in India and still have many friends working in various software companies. I wrote a blog Recruiting like crazy, about the same time last year about how Indian companies are recruiting like there’s no tomorrow and the possible consequences. However I was avoiding writing this particular piece as it seems like an unpatriotic thing to do, to tell the world how bad the working conditions in software companies in India have become. And there’s always the risk of excerpts being used out of context to bash up IT in India.
I am now writing this because I just keep hearing horror tales from the industry and it doesn’t seem like anything is being done in the matter, so I thought I will do my bit and write.
First and foremost, before stereotypes about India kick in, I would like to clarify that I am not saying that Indian software companies are sweat shops where employees aren’t being paid and made to
work in cramped uncomfortable places. The pay in software companies is very good as compared to other industries in India and the work places are generally well furnished and plush offices. India being a strong democracy, freedom of expression is alive and well and Indians are free to express their opinions and voice their concerns. Yet, I say that the software industry is exploiting its employees.
IT work culture in India is totally messed up and has now started harming the work culture of the nation as a whole. Working 12+ hours a day and 6 or even 7 days a week is more the rule than the exception.
Consequences:
- A majority of IT people suffer from health problems.As most of the IT workforce is still very young, the problem isn’t very obvious today but it will hit with unbearable ferocity when these youngsters get to their 40s.
- Stress levels are unbelievable high. Stress management is a cover topic in magazines and newspapers and workshops on the subject are regularly overbooked.
- Most IT people have hardly any social / family life to talk of.
- As IT folk are rich by Indian standards, they try to buy their way out of their troubles and have incurred huge debts by buying expensive houses, gizmos and fancy cars.
Plush offices, fat salaries and latest gizmos can give you happiness only if you have a life in the first place.
The reason I feel this culture has emerged, is the servile attitude of the companies. Here’s a tip for any company in the west planning to outsource to India. If you feel that a project can be completed in 6 weeks by 4 people, always demand that it be completed in 2 weeks by 3 people.
Guess what, most Indian companies will agree. The project will then be hyped up as an “extremely critical” one and the 3 unfortunate souls allocated to it will get very close to meeting the almighty by the time they deliver the project in 2 weeks. Surprisingly, they will deliver in 2-3 weeks, get bashed up for any delays and the company will soon boast about how they deliver good quality in reasonable time and cost. Has anyone in India ever worked on a project that wasn’t “extremely critical”?
I was once at a session where a top boss of one of India’s biggest IT firms was asked a question about what was so special about their company and his answer was that we are the “Yes” people with the “We Can Do It ” attitude.
It is all very well for the top boss to say “We Can Do It “.. what about the project teams who wish to say “Please….We Can’t Do It ” to the unreasonable timelines…I was tempted to ask “What death benefits does your company offer to the teams that get killed in the process?”. I sure was ashamed to see that a fellow Indian was openly boasting about the fact that he and his company had no backbone. The art of saying No or negotiating reasonable time frames for the team is very conspicuous by its absence. Outsourcing customers more often than not simply walk all over Indian software companies. The outsourcer surely cannot be blamed as it is right for him to demand good quality in the least cost and time.
Exhaustion = Zero Innovation
- How many Indians in India are thought leaders in their software segment? – Very few
- How much software innovation happens in India? – Minimal
- Considering that thousands of Indians in India use Open Source software, how many actually contribute? – Very few
Surprisingly, put the same Indian in a company “in” the US and he suddenly becomes innovative and a thought leader in his field.
The reason is simple, the only thing an exhausted body and mind can do well, is sleep. zzzzzz
I can pretty much bet on it that we will never see innovation from any of 10000+ person code factories in India.
If you are someone sitting in the US, UK… and wondering why the employees can’t stand up, that’s the most interesting part of the story. Read on…
The Problem
The software professional Indian is today making more money in a month than what his parents might have made in an year. Very often a 21 year old newbie software developer makes more money than his/her 55 year old father working in an old world business. Most of these youngsters are well aware of this gap and so work under an impression that they are being paid an unreasonable amount of money. They naturally equate unreasonable money with unreasonable amount of work.
Another important factor is this whole bubble that an IT person lives in.. An IT professional walks with a halo around his or her head. They are the Cool, Rich Gen Next .. the Intelligentsia of the New World… they travel all over the world, vacation at exotic locations abroad, talk “american”, are more familiar of the geography of the USA than that of India and yes of course, they are the hottest things in the Wedding Market!!!
This I feel is the core problem because if employees felt they were being exploited, things would change.
I speak about this to some of my friends and the answer is generally “Hey Harshad, what you say is correct and we sure are suffering, but why do you think we are being paid this much money? It’s not for 40 hours but for 80 hours a week. And anyway what choice do we have? It’s the same everywhere.”
So can we make things change? Is there a way to try and stop an entire generation of educated Indians from ending up with “no life”.
Solutions
1) Never complement someone for staying till midnight or working 7 days a week.
Recently, in an awards ceremony at a software company, the manager handing over the “employee of the month” award said something like “It’s unbelievable how hard he works. When I come to office early, I see him working, when I leave office late, I still see him working”.. These sort of comments can kill the morale of every employee trying to do good work in an 8hr day.
Companies need to stop hiding behind the excuse that the time difference between India and the west is the reason why people need to stay in office for 14 hours a day. Staying late should be a negative thing that should work against an employee in his appraisals. Never complement someone for staying till midnight or working 7 days a week .
2) Estimates:
If time estimates go wrong, the company should be willing to take a hit and not force the employee to work crazy hours to bail projects out of trouble. This will ensure that the estimates made for the next project are more real and not just what the customer has asked for.
3) Employee organizations / forums
NASSCOM (National Association for Software and Services Companies) and CSI (Computer Society Of India) are perhaps the only two well known software associations in India and both I feel have failed the software employee. I do not recall any action from these organizations to try and improve the working conditions of software employees. This has to change.
I am not in favor of forming trade unions for software people, as trade unions in India have traditionally been more effective at ruining businesses and making employees inefficient than getting employees their rights and helping business do well. So existing bodies like NASSCOM should create and popularize employee welfare cells at a state / regional level and these cells should work only for employee welfare and not be puppets in the hands of the companies.
If the industry does not itself create proper forums for employee welfare, it’s likely that the government / trade unions will interfere and mess up India’s sunshine industry.
4) Narayan Murthys please stand up
Top bosses of companies like Infosys, TCS, Wipro, etc. need to send the message loud and clear to their company and to other companies listening at national IT events that employee welfare is really their top concern and having good working culture and conditions is a priority. Employee welfare here does not mean giving the employee the salary he/she dreams of.
Last word
I am sure some of my thoughts come from the fact that I too worked in such an environment for a few years and perhaps I haven’t got over the frustrations I experienced back then.
So think about my views with a pinch of salt but do think about them. And if you have an opinion on this issue, don’t forget to add a comment to this article.
beware of wealth earned with compromised health
I have probably never faced such grim work timings, probably also because last several years I work as an independent consultant. But yes I do agree with some others’ observations about rewards being given on face time rather than output. Who is to blame? It would be convenient to say managers, but to large extent I feel it is the people and culture in general which is to be blamed. How many of Indians will support their colleague instead of keeping quiet, if they knew he/she had to leave early (read on time). Keeping quiet and being a good boy/good girl is something which most Indians were taught always, and we carry it over to workplace where a father figure (manager) is all too ready to indulge and play on sibling rivalries !
Also, folks tend to spend time whiling away in cricket, browsing, chatting, email and then stay late to impress the boss. The boss probably knows it all to well, but keeps the folks playing each other and their part. After all, he needs to exercise control, and face time is the easiest lever of control.
Go get a life, and if you insist you have one, others will respect you for that! But respect yourselves first and also respect others for doing the same ! Don’t be a silent spectator to all this charade.
– Vivek
I have probably never faced such grim work timings, probably also because last several years I work as an independent consultant. But yes I do agree with some others’ observations about rewards being given on face time rather than output. Who is to blame? It would be convenient to say managers, but to large extent I feel it is the people and culture in general which is to be blamed. How many of Indians will support their colleague instead of keeping quiet, if they knew he/she had to leave early (read on time). Keeping quiet and being a good boy/good girl is something which most Indians were taught always, and we carry it over to workplace where a father figure (manager) is all too ready to indulge and play on sibling rivalries !
Also, folks tend to spend time whiling away in cricket, browsing, chatting, email and then stay late to impress the boss. The boss probably knows it all to well, but keeps the folks playing each other and their part. After all, he needs to exercise control, and face time is the easiest lever of control.
Go get a life, and if you insist you have one, others will respect you for that! But respect yourselves first and also respect others for doing the same ! Don’t be a silent spectator to all this charade.
– Vivek
I agree with most of whats written, and an interesting comment added that the India manager wants to be treated like a ‘babu’. Just to add here that all ‘insecure’ and ‘not just Indian’ managers behave that way. The reason we see more desi babus is probably because there is more financial insecurity in the Indian manager born 4 decades ago.
If companies made it clear to their employess that they believe in rewarding their employees by giving them better quality of life rather than the so called ‘performance based appraisal/bonus’, the wiser would choose such a place. A friend recently joined a FI in a IT position after leaving a major software co, he was sent to the US for 2 weeks, all expenses paid but not much cash that he could save, However the company seen to it that no matter what he was back before his wedding anniversary and planned another trip after the occasion.
This i think would be the differentiator between the sweat shops who would automatically be left out bearing the statutory warning : ‘We are blood-suckers’
– Deepak
I agree with most of whats written, and an interesting comment added that the India manager wants to be treated like a ‘babu’. Just to add here that all ‘insecure’ and ‘not just Indian’ managers behave that way. The reason we see more desi babus is probably because there is more financial insecurity in the Indian manager born 4 decades ago.
If companies made it clear to their employess that they believe in rewarding their employees by giving them better quality of life rather than the so called ‘performance based appraisal/bonus’, the wiser would choose such a place. A friend recently joined a FI in a IT position after leaving a major software co, he was sent to the US for 2 weeks, all expenses paid but not much cash that he could save, However the company seen to it that no matter what he was back before his wedding anniversary and planned another trip after the occasion.
This i think would be the differentiator between the sweat shops who would automatically be left out bearing the statutory warning : ‘We are blood-suckers’
– Deepak
Harshad,
The content though correct sounded like we are working in dictatorship. Why do such literate and so called sound people bend for such decisions finally it is the money. IT people specially in India unfortunately have become more complacent the output levels of individuals have gone low hence in a team the sincere people get more work load as they have to compensate for the non performing people. All said and done finally we are the people who create the time pressures ourselves. We waste productive hours of work in surfing net, chatting with people, playing games, bickering and then sit in office late and complain about the time schedules. Most of the IT people do not know time management the only thing they know is keep hoping jobs for few thousands no one realises the impact. In the existing company you create the pressure and in the new company you are going to take pressure because someone has left. So it is a vicious circle and IT professionals have to realize, it is them who can improve the conditions by being a little more responsible committed and matured towards work and their own life for a better tomorrow.
I have experienced it. First year of my professional life was very bad. I followed office timings religiously. Reach at 9 am and leave by 6 pm. But in appraisals my manager made very clear that ‘Your performance was not upto the mark’.
On the other hand my friend got very good.
I changed myself. I started coming at 11-11.30 do full timepass(mails, chatting) upto 4, then work till 10-11 pm. And I couldn’t believe, I got performance award by end of that year.
Its not just the managers but bachelors are also equally responsible. Most common supporting statement made by bachelors for working late night and on weekends ‘What will we do at home? Nothing, so we come to office to check mails or to surf.’ These are real stupid excuses.
Now lot of young people (with age of 28-32) are becoming TL,PM who had already suffered. So its in there hands to change all this by not encouraging(no awards, normal appraisals) people to work late nights and on weekends.
Prasanna
Harshad,
The content though correct sounded like we are working in dictatorship. Why do such literate and so called sound people bend for such decisions finally it is the money. IT people specially in India unfortunately have become more complacent the output levels of individuals have gone low hence in a team the sincere people get more work load as they have to compensate for the non performing people. All said and done finally we are the people who create the time pressures ourselves. We waste productive hours of work in surfing net, chatting with people, playing games, bickering and then sit in office late and complain about the time schedules. Most of the IT people do not know time management the only thing they know is keep hoping jobs for few thousands no one realises the impact. In the existing company you create the pressure and in the new company you are going to take pressure because someone has left. So it is a vicious circle and IT professionals have to realize, it is them who can improve the conditions by being a little more responsible committed and matured towards work and their own life for a better tomorrow.
I have experienced it. First year of my professional life was very bad. I followed office timings religiously. Reach at 9 am and leave by 6 pm. But in appraisals my manager made very clear that ‘Your performance was not upto the mark’.
On the other hand my friend got very good.
I changed myself. I started coming at 11-11.30 do full timepass(mails, chatting) upto 4, then work till 10-11 pm. And I couldn’t believe, I got performance award by end of that year.
Its not just the managers but bachelors are also equally responsible. Most common supporting statement made by bachelors for working late night and on weekends ‘What will we do at home? Nothing, so we come to office to check mails or to surf.’ These are real stupid excuses.
Now lot of young people (with age of 28-32) are becoming TL,PM who had already suffered. So its in there hands to change all this by not encouraging(no awards, normal appraisals) people to work late nights and on weekends.
Prasanna
I feel that the way Indian S/W industry works is very much similar to the unorganized small sector industries that work in small towns of India. The only goal that they see currently is of ‘getting business’. Sales people are least bothered about the toiling that the people in the development centers undergo. But are the Sales people to be blamed for this? Their job is to get the business by hook or crook… ‘[I]saam, daam, dand, bhed[/I]’ you know…
The Indian S/W industry needs to mature now. Its not just about ‘manufacturing’ a software in a factory as per the specifications but adding value to the delivery by putting some innovation and creativity into it. Its not just about getting the business but to run the business professionally as well.
If we do business as a ‘price game’ we’ll continue to force our developers to go through hell. We need to consolidate our position at an international level. There should be something like MRTP (Monopolistic and restrictive Trade Practices) Act which can prevent S/W companies from quoting inappropriately low. The differentiating factor should be the quality of the service provided. Thus for front office, it would not be a ‘Sales’ but ‘Marketing’ job. Marketing of talent, of innovation, of high class service offered by humans and not some homonoid machines.
-Neeraj
I feel that the way Indian S/W industry works is very much similar to the unorganized small sector industries that work in small towns of India. The only goal that they see currently is of ‘getting business’. Sales people are least bothered about the toiling that the people in the development centers undergo. But are the Sales people to be blamed for this? Their job is to get the business by hook or crook… ‘[I]saam, daam, dand, bhed[/I]’ you know…
The Indian S/W industry needs to mature now. Its not just about ‘manufacturing’ a software in a factory as per the specifications but adding value to the delivery by putting some innovation and creativity into it. Its not just about getting the business but to run the business professionally as well.
If we do business as a ‘price game’ we’ll continue to force our developers to go through hell. We need to consolidate our position at an international level. There should be something like MRTP (Monopolistic and restrictive Trade Practices) Act which can prevent S/W companies from quoting inappropriately low. The differentiating factor should be the quality of the service provided. Thus for front office, it would not be a ‘Sales’ but ‘Marketing’ job. Marketing of talent, of innovation, of high class service offered by humans and not some homonoid machines.
-Neeraj
If you hadn’t written about this, I definitely would have. I think, its a must read for the Indian IT guy. I too have worked in India in the begining of my career. Even the thought of going back is dreadful because I wont be able to cope up with the work culture anymore.
I like the solutions suggested by you and I would like to add one more point.
The law in India should not permit employees to be made to work so many hours. There are laws in Europe, why can’t it be in India ? !
In Europe it is illegal if an employee does not go on a statutory leave every year.
I am not in favour of manyana or siesta 🙂
But I detest exploitation.
Sunil
If you hadn’t written about this, I definitely would have. I think, its a must read for the Indian IT guy. I too have worked in India in the begining of my career. Even the thought of going back is dreadful because I wont be able to cope up with the work culture anymore.
I like the solutions suggested by you and I would like to add one more point.
The law in India should not permit employees to be made to work so many hours. There are laws in Europe, why can’t it be in India ? !
In Europe it is illegal if an employee does not go on a statutory leave every year.
I am not in favour of manyana or siesta 🙂
But I detest exploitation.
Sunil
Thanks to Harshad for initiating a discussion on this topic and to others for sharing their real life experiences in India on ‘overwork’. This gives NRIs an oppurtunity to weigh the benefits of returning to India…
In my view, I feel that ‘overworking’ is part of an Indian mindset whether he lives in India or in the US. Indians feel that they have to ‘work’ more (or atleast pretend) than their colleagues in order to grow up the ladder. And this culture continues forever…The coders and beginners are to be equally blamed for this. Today’s coders are tomorrow’s managers and they carry over this culture when they become managers. I know a friend who works for 16+ hours a day performing 2 men’s job while he had the authority to recruit another person… this is built in Indian culture & mindset always starting from Vedic age..not to share/spread the knowledge else the other man will surpass me !
There are 2 steps we need to follow to slowly eliminate the ‘overwork/workholic’ phenomena…
1) ‘me & I’ versus teamwork : Instead of always saying ‘I’ did that…’I: did this’, we Indians should move towards ‘we’. Share the knowledge and work as as team so that everyone does the work in a balanced timeframe instead of a few guys over-working. This way everyone gets a slice of the work and recognition and time for family too.
2) Develop ‘work-life’ culture : we individuals (coders, beginners and everyone reading/writing this forum) should develop a work-life balance and keep repeating the ‘work-life balance’ mantra to colleagues, managers, upper management and mainly to the HR representatives too. Remember that today’s coders are tomorrows Teamleads/Managers. And as we move up the ladder we should ensure that our team members and reportees also enjoy ‘work-life’ balance.
This is a 5 to 10 year process and we are the ones who can change this culture & attitude. Lets march towards that !
– Sam, New York
Thanks to Harshad for initiating a discussion on this topic and to others for sharing their real life experiences in India on ‘overwork’. This gives NRIs an oppurtunity to weigh the benefits of returning to India…
In my view, I feel that ‘overworking’ is part of an Indian mindset whether he lives in India or in the US. Indians feel that they have to ‘work’ more (or atleast pretend) than their colleagues in order to grow up the ladder. And this culture continues forever…The coders and beginners are to be equally blamed for this. Today’s coders are tomorrow’s managers and they carry over this culture when they become managers. I know a friend who works for 16+ hours a day performing 2 men’s job while he had the authority to recruit another person… this is built in Indian culture & mindset always starting from Vedic age..not to share/spread the knowledge else the other man will surpass me !
There are 2 steps we need to follow to slowly eliminate the ‘overwork/workholic’ phenomena…
1) ‘me & I’ versus teamwork : Instead of always saying ‘I’ did that…’I: did this’, we Indians should move towards ‘we’. Share the knowledge and work as as team so that everyone does the work in a balanced timeframe instead of a few guys over-working. This way everyone gets a slice of the work and recognition and time for family too.
2) Develop ‘work-life’ culture : we individuals (coders, beginners and everyone reading/writing this forum) should develop a work-life balance and keep repeating the ‘work-life balance’ mantra to colleagues, managers, upper management and mainly to the HR representatives too. Remember that today’s coders are tomorrows Teamleads/Managers. And as we move up the ladder we should ensure that our team members and reportees also enjoy ‘work-life’ balance.
This is a 5 to 10 year process and we are the ones who can change this culture & attitude. Lets march towards that !
– Sam, New York
‘Night stay’ is a word that has been born and brought up in India. Begineers feels that its ‘in thing’ and by the time they understand the reality its too late. It happened with me initially and i realised my mistake when my managers started asuming that i can work late and on weekend without problem. the only way out of this trouble was to change the job. that’s exactly what i did.
Come on guys lets put some logic here.
Assuming that most of the companies has 3 appraisal bands (or may be 4 where there is a thin margin between percentage hike for middle 2 catagories). lets take cat 1,2 and 3 where one is poor and 3 is excellent. Eliminating the case where you don’t work at all or you have landed in a wrong industry. In such case surely you get 1. To get 3 you have to be technically very very sound or should have very very good relation with your manager or should have all other teammates below grade. if you fall in any of the above catagory you will get 3. very very few average guys get 3 because he stays late or work on weekend. then if you have to get 2 anyway it doesn’t make sense to slog just because of your satisfaction. may be in some cases one may get some extra 5% more than others for slogging but does it actually pays the life you have lost working late? you loose you personal and social life just to impress your manager and get some extra 5% which does not count much if your compare it to what you have lost for it. If i am working sincerely no one can give me poor grade
Believe me after i though this i have stopped working late unless and until it’s very urgent.
Believe me in many cases we work till late for something which can be done even next day. look yourselves, for 4 hours of late work we do we are productive only for half of the time or sometimes even less. try to prove yourself during working hours and avoid commiting anything for late hours.
I think if all of start doing this with right attitude then no one can force us to slog (till we let someone do that.)
I welcome your comments on this.
–Gagan
:grin
‘Night stay’ is a word that has been born and brought up in India. Begineers feels that its ‘in thing’ and by the time they understand the reality its too late. It happened with me initially and i realised my mistake when my managers started asuming that i can work late and on weekend without problem. the only way out of this trouble was to change the job. that’s exactly what i did.
Come on guys lets put some logic here.
Assuming that most of the companies has 3 appraisal bands (or may be 4 where there is a thin margin between percentage hike for middle 2 catagories). lets take cat 1,2 and 3 where one is poor and 3 is excellent. Eliminating the case where you don’t work at all or you have landed in a wrong industry. In such case surely you get 1. To get 3 you have to be technically very very sound or should have very very good relation with your manager or should have all other teammates below grade. if you fall in any of the above catagory you will get 3. very very few average guys get 3 because he stays late or work on weekend. then if you have to get 2 anyway it doesn’t make sense to slog just because of your satisfaction. may be in some cases one may get some extra 5% more than others for slogging but does it actually pays the life you have lost working late? you loose you personal and social life just to impress your manager and get some extra 5% which does not count much if your compare it to what you have lost for it. If i am working sincerely no one can give me poor grade
Believe me after i though this i have stopped working late unless and until it’s very urgent.
Believe me in many cases we work till late for something which can be done even next day. look yourselves, for 4 hours of late work we do we are productive only for half of the time or sometimes even less. try to prove yourself during working hours and avoid commiting anything for late hours.
I think if all of start doing this with right attitude then no one can force us to slog (till we let someone do that.)
I welcome your comments on this.
–Gagan
:grin
I placed link of this article on my blog on another article about sitting late in office[URL=http://hetwaghela.blogspot.com/2005/11/do-you-sit-late-in-office.html]Het Waghela – Do you sit late in office?[/URL].
Are people feeling insecure bout their skills and not able to say no. I feel it is mainly coz of those people who are not confident bout their skills which they think can be repented by sitting late and making their juniors sitting till late. That was bit from the post of my blog.
I got quite many comments on positive side. I was shocked to hear that people are accepting it as part of their work to put stress on them and sit late, they are considering it as culture.
Its too hot topic on corporate to pass on the fumes around. But we have to do a well beginning which will make it half over.
All the best
[URL=http://hetwaghela.blogspot.com]Het Waghela[/URL]
I placed link of this article on my blog on another article about sitting late in office[URL=http://hetwaghela.blogspot.com/2005/11/do-you-sit-late-in-office.html]Het Waghela – Do you sit late in office?[/URL].
Are people feeling insecure bout their skills and not able to say no. I feel it is mainly coz of those people who are not confident bout their skills which they think can be repented by sitting late and making their juniors sitting till late. That was bit from the post of my blog.
I got quite many comments on positive side. I was shocked to hear that people are accepting it as part of their work to put stress on them and sit late, they are considering it as culture.
Its too hot topic on corporate to pass on the fumes around. But we have to do a well beginning which will make it half over.
All the best
[URL=http://hetwaghela.blogspot.com]Het Waghela[/URL]
I do concur to Harsh..
There is a need for change, which is inevitable…
As the chinese says…Journey starts with a single step..learn to say NO..
and let the Managers do wht they are paid for …MANAGE …!!
Dont expect change to come..lets take it from our end….thanks and all the best folks..lets see if we can turn around the globe if we have the lever in our hands..i guess everyone has..all you need to know is how much hard you can try…
Best Wishes to all folkss… Murali
I do concur to Harsh..
There is a need for change, which is inevitable…
As the chinese says…Journey starts with a single step..learn to say NO..
and let the Managers do wht they are paid for …MANAGE …!!
Dont expect change to come..lets take it from our end….thanks and all the best folks..lets see if we can turn around the globe if we have the lever in our hands..i guess everyone has..all you need to know is how much hard you can try…
Best Wishes to all folkss… Murali
Whatever you say is very true. Amazingly coherent and hard-hitting. One thing you left out is incapable Managers who choose to read online version of Harry Potter, rather than sitting with the project team and discussing their issues.
Whatever you say is very true. Amazingly coherent and hard-hitting. One thing you left out is incapable Managers who choose to read online version of Harry Potter, rather than sitting with the project team and discussing their issues.
You can make yourself indespensible by raising your bar in quality and efficiency. That way, you can have your say, and you will be listened too. It is a truth that stronger always has his way, and others discuss philosophy.
For other perspective, take a look at this link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10296177/site/newsweek/
Thanks, Rajendra Ranmale
You can make yourself indespensible by raising your bar in quality and efficiency. That way, you can have your say, and you will be listened too. It is a truth that stronger always has his way, and others discuss philosophy.
For other perspective, take a look at this link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10296177/site/newsweek/
Thanks, Rajendra Ranmale